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"The Qur'an recognizes the universal goodness of all people and religions. Instead of fighting and dominating other people, Islam enjoins Muslims to identify with the goodness in all people and recognize that G'd will reward them for their good deeds. The life of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is well documented. There are numerous examples showing how he dealt with the pagans and Jews in Arabia who were his enemies. He never was the aggressor, he established treaties with them and lived in peace with them."

The following are excerpts from a debate I had with a Zionist named Chuck Morse regarding Islam, world domination and democracy.


Chuck Morse wrote:

In contrast, Islamists, as a cornerstone of their stated faith, believe in world conquest. Islamists view the portion of the world that has not submitted to their rule as the Dar es Harb or the world of war. They are commanded by their faith to conduct Jihad, or war, against the non-Islamic world until they achieve Dar es Salaam, or a world of peace. This is the term they use to describe a utopian world under the Islamic scimitar.

Nashid's Response:

Nothing could be further than the truth. In Islam all believing righteous people have a place with G'd and they are guaranteed rewards for their good deeds. Muslims are taught to respect these people and no greater proof of how they should be regarded than what the Qur'an itself says of believing Christians, Jews and others in the following verses and many similar verses throughout the Qur'an:

"Those who believe (in the Qur'an)
And those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures)
And the Christians and the Sabians,
ANY who believe in G'd
And the Last Day,
And work righteousness,
Shall have their reward
With their Lord: on them
Shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

Surah 2: 62

The Qur'an recognizes the universal goodness of all people and religions. Instead of fighting and dominating other people, Islam enjoins Muslims to identify with the goodness in all people and recognize that G'd will reward them for their good deeds. The life of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is well documented. There are numerous examples showing how he dealt with the pagans and Jews in Arabia who were his enemies. He never was the aggressor, he established treaties with them and even when the pagans and Jews broke their treaties, attacked the Muslims and lost in their battles against the Muslims, the Prophet allowed them to live freely as long as they respected to live in peace. It was because of the humane treatment by Muslims to all that the whole Arabian Peninsula in time converted to Islam.

The ones Muslims are to fight are clearly identified as in the following verses:

"Fight in the cause of G'd
Those who fight you,
But do not transgress limits;
For G'd loveth not transgressors. (2:190)
"And slay them
Wherever ye catch them,
And turn them out
From where they have
Turned you out;
For tumult and oppression
Are worse than slaughter;
But fight them not
At the Sacred Mosque
Unless they (first)
Fight you there;
But if they fight you,
Slay them.
Such is the reward
Of those who suppress faith. (2:191)

"But if they cease,
G'd is Oft-forgiving
Most Merciful.” (2:192)

Also history shows that it was not the Muslims that went to Christian Europe under a banner of a holy crusade to dominate them. It was the Christians who went to Muslim lands during the Crusades and even today. The Muslims fought in self defense much like what they are doing now in Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq.


 
Chuck Morse Wrote:

The Socialists also believe in world conquest as an article of faith. They view the portion of the world that has not submitted to them as "reactionary" and "oppressive." They feel commanded by "science" to engage in "struggle" to achieve what they refer to as a progressive world. In the name of this elusive progress they have murdered, according to the Black Book of Communism, over 100 million people this last century.

Islamic doctrine is filled with references to Jihad. An example was the Sept. 11 attack on the twin towers in New York. Such an audacious frontal assault on the Dar el Harb, they believe, will de-stabilize the nation they call the "great Satan." They consider killing "infidels" to be humane and even a sacred act in the performance of Jihad, which is why they are prone to shout "Allahu Akbar!" as they grab the controls of an airplane.


Nashid's Response:

The reverence for life and the conditions by which life can be taken are specified very clearly in the Qur'an. Here are a few verses illustrating this:

“…if anyone slew a person unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (5:32)

“Unto G'd belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He giveth life and He taketh it. Except for Him ye have no protector nor helper.” (9:116)

“Kill not your children for fear of want: We shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you. Verily the killing of them is a great sin. Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils). Nor take life - which G'd has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive.)” Qur'an (17:31-33)

No where in the Qur'an are Muslims endorsed to wage war against others just because they don’t believe in Islam. The endorsement to fight is always against those who are committing wrongs and for self defence. Life is considered to be very sacred in Islam. G'd is the Author of life and in Islam only He can take life and give the conditions by which life can be taken. The above verses are very clear about what those conditions are. There are many places in the Qur'an where Muslims are specifically commanded to fight in self defence and to protect the weak and oppressed. One can search the whole Qur'an and look at every verse regarding fighting and war and never will the waging of war for conquest or the killing of innocent lives be endorsed. Compare that to the Bible and the Talmud.

Chuck Morse Wrote:

Socialist doctrine is also filled with justifications for violence and war as a means of achieving political ends. The color red, which is the international socialist color, stands for the human blood that they will shed in order to induce the "birth pangs" of the new Socialist reality. To achieve their goals they "bore from within" by infiltrating and subverting nations. They divide and conquer and foment instability and violence. Upon seizing power they routinely exterminate their opposition. Since they refuse to recognize the existence of truth or morality, only "socialist" truth, they consider such extermination to be justified.

The great American experiment is whether or not mankind is capable of exercising his G'd given potential for self-rule. The Islamist and Socialist reject this as even a possibility. America is the last great hope for mankind as peoples of the world, whether stated or implied, covet our freedom and seek to emulate it. The biggest mistake we could make in these dangerous times is to imbibe Islamist/Socialist propaganda that seeks to tear us down in the eyes of the world and tear at the very fabric of our domestic freedom with their acts of war, both overt and subtle. Mankind is depending on our ability to stand up and be ourselves.


Nashid's Response:

The writer should not confuse Islam with Socialism or even mention them in the same breadth. Bolshevism, Communism, Socialism are the creation of Jews. Karl Marx was from a family that had a long tradition of Rabbis. If you ever study what a sect of the Jews known as Sadducees believed you would see that Socialism is no more than the doctrine of the Sadducees made public. The massacres of millions especially in Russia were done by Jews under the banner of Bolshevism. In fact it was not a Muslim but major Jewish leaders who publicly declared the following:

"Socialism is the modern form of Jewish Prophecy." Prof. Reinhold Niebur
"Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism." Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists
“The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution, the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism….”, Rabbi Harry waton.

So as far as these Rabbis and Jews were concerned, all of the deaths done in the name of Communism and Nazism were done in the name of Judaism.

There are too many differences between Socialism and Islam and one of the main ones is that Socialism is G'dless whereas Islam is not.

The Qur'an states the following regarding man’s creation: “…We have indeed created man in the best of moulds…” (95:4).  Muslims understand this to mean that G'd created the human being morally, mentally and spiritually in the most excellent forms. As such the human beings goal is to “strive as in a race to achieve the goal of excellence in life”. The pursuit of life, liberty and happiness are all excellent goals that the Qur'an endorses the human being to achieve. This concept of man is very different from the Christian’s wherein man is described as being born in sin and destined to do evil by nature.

Muslims believe that the idea of man and freedom in the Constitution is more in line with the Islamic idea of man than the Christian idea of man. The freedom to pursue life, liberty and excellence are ideas espoused in the Qur'an. The founding fathers like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were very acquainted with Islam.

For the true liberation of the human being in Islam the words are stated in the first chapter and the most often repeated prayer of the Muslims, "Thee Alone do we worship, and Thee Alone do we seek for aid." By giving that type of devotion to the Creator of the heavens and the earth, the Supreme Being, the All Powerful and All Knowing G'd, Islam negates the possibility of anything else in creation being gods or forces for the human being to submit to. More than anything, this guarantees the human being his G'd given right for self rule and recognizes that not other men but only G'd is who he should submit his whole self to.

Many Muslims believe that the Declaration of Independence of the USA was in reality no more than a re-discovery of many of the major and basic principles given in the Qur'an. When Thomas Jefferson wrote down the Declaration of Independence, he was influenced by the natural rights theories of John Locke. It is a known fact that Thomas Jefferson "borrowed" many of his ideas for the Declaration of Independence from John Locke. As it turns out, Locke had a degree in Arabic Studies from Oxford University and "borrowed" many of his ideas from the Qur'an. John Locke wrote "Just governments are founded on consent and are designed solely to protect the people in their inherent rights to life, liberty, and property." A great statement indeed and here are some quotes from the Qur'an showing that these ideas existed there more than a thousand years ago:

1. The idea of consent in the Qur'an:

In Qur'an, 3:159, G'd told Muhammed, and those who will follow him, " ...and consult them (the people). Once you make a decision, carry out your plan, and trust in G'd. G'd loves those who trust Him."

In 42:38 G'd is describing the qualities of the true Muslims:

"They respond to their Lord by observing the contact prayers. Their affairs are decided after due CONSULTATION among themselves, and from our provisions to them they give."


2. Guarantee of freedom of religion in Qur'an:

In 2:256: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in G'd hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And G'd heareth and knoweth all things.”

"Say (Muhammad it is) truth from the Lord of all. Whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, LET him disbelieve." [18:29]


3. Right to life and sacredness of life for all human beings in Qur'an:

6:151: " Say, "Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you: You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents. You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty - we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill - G'd has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand."


4. Right to both men AND women to own property:

4:7 From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and a share for women, whether the property be small or large,-a determinate share.


5. Right to a life of liberty without oppression:

2:193: "And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in G'd. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.”


6. Right to the pursuit of happiness and achievement of good in this life

2:148 To each is a goal to which G'd turns him; then strive together (as in a race) Towards all that is good. Wheresoever ye are, G'd will bring you Together. For G'd Hath power over all things.

28:77 "But seek, with the (wealth) which G'd has bestowed on thee, the Home of the Hereafter, nor forget thy portion in this world: but do thou good, as G'd has been good to thee, and seek not (occasions for) mischief in the land: for G'd loves not those who do mischief."


These are the basic democratic principles that were discovered in The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America more than a thousand years after G'd gave it to Muslims in the Qur'an.


It is interesting to know that most of the so called Muslim Countries failed to uphold these Qur'anic democratic principles. For example, in Muslim countries there should never be any form of compulsion or oppression in matters of belief. G'd permits all people of all religions to live freely in a true Muslim society. But that is not what is happening. The US Declaration of Independence  guaranteed that basic Qur'anic principle. When you consider that Muslim countries have been under colonial rule for hundreds of years and many of them did not become free or were even born as countries less than 70 years ago, it helps to give perspective to that world. Today we see many monarchies in the Muslim world. These monarchies as a form of government are not Islamic. The monarchies and dictatorships in Muslim lands are no more than copies of the European monarchies and dictatorships that Muslim lands were subjected to under colonial rule.

In the life of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) he demonstrated the democratic principle by not deciding on issues affecting the whole Muslim Community by himself. He encouraged Shura (consultation) and there even was an incident where he had made a decision and the majority of the people felt differently and he went along with the majority’s decision instead of his own. The examples of the Prophet (saaw) stand in stark contradiction to the examples of the puppet leaders in the Muslim world and the edicts of the priest class.

 

 

 

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